Sneak peak: GitHub and tip borders

[Craig]

Thought I'd give you all a sneak peak of much-requested feature that's hitting the 2.0 release!

Also... checkout the new GitHub repo that's replacing the old Launchpad account: http://github.com/Craga89/qTip

[BrendonKoz]

Yay!

[adam]

Hi, are there any new releases in the 1.0 in the github repository? Latest version from the "Nightly code" link is from 23th may and I have some problems with this version.

If so, is there a compiled version of the new release? I don't know how to compile the JS files into one ...

Thanks.

[Craig]

Hey adam, qTip 1 is no longer in development unfortunately. All efforts are going into qTip2 at the GitHub repo. I recently add pre-compiled version of the script to the repo, so check this out if you want to switch over (you won't be sorry!): http://github.com/Craga89/qTip/tree/master/dist/

[elyobo]

What would really help, if you have the time, is to put up the documentation you've been working on; even if it's incomplete it would be very helpful. I'm trying to upgrade our application to jQuery 1.4.2 + jQuery UI 1.8.4, and the only thing currently holding me back is qTip integration; it seems like qTip 2.x is the solution here, but I'm having difficulty with a couple of key areas

* events - I need support for what was provided by the old api onRender, beforeShow and beforeHide events to do a few things to my tooltips at those times; I can't figure out how this is done in the 2.x,
* Tips - it's mainly aesthetic, but they are quite nice, and again I just can't see how they're done at all this time around.

So if your documentation is in anyway usable, it would be great

Thanks for all your work, it really is fantastic.

[Craig]

elyobo, checkout the new documentation here: http://craigsworks.com/projects/qtip_new/docs/

[brant]

Unfortunately the ajax tutorials aren't done yet. ;(

[shawn]

Any chance of there being some sort of collaboration between you and jQuery UI? Now that you are both on github, it would be great to see your excellent work somehow incorporated into the official jQuery UI tooltip plugin that is being built for the next release. Right now it's a bit under-featured compared to qTip, but maybe it could be a win-win for everybody if you combine resources:

http://blog.jqueryui.com/2010/05/jquery-...1-tooltip/
http://wiki.jqueryui.com/Tooltip

Just thought I'd throw it out there. Keep up the great work!

[Craig]

Funnily enough I've contributed to the discussion on the tooltip widget and am part of the planning wiki for it. However the basis for their tooltip widget is the same as for the rest of their widgets: simplicity. It's possible in future that qTip may be built on top of the UI tooltip widget, but unfortunately it's not robust enough just yet. We'll see how things pan out in the future!

[MyJqueryLife]

How did you get your pointers to style like that? In your print screen above the pointer of the tip has the same border color as the tips border, and the same background color of the tip.

My tips the pointer is has the same background color as the tips border color as seen here:

I am using qtip2 (downloaded today), with jquery 1.4.2 here is a print screen:

Also is there a way to change the pointers size? I could not figure it out in the documents: http://craigsworks.com/projects/qtip_new/docs/style/

Also a big thanks, I really like qtips

[Craig]

MyjQueryLife, checkout the tips plugin docs: http://craigsworks.com/projects/qtip_new/docs/style/

JS Code

$('.selector').qtip({
   content: 'test',
   style: {
      tip: {
         corner: true,
         border: 4
      }
   }
});

Note: This is currently experimental and may not display properly in all browsers just yet.

[MyJqueryLife]

Thanks, that answered my questions. I can't wait till its final and works in all browsers, it looks funny in on OSX Chrome 6, and is almost perfect in Mac FF 3.6.9

Looking over every thing I am really impressed. This one script is hopefully going to be used on my site for:
Standard ToolTips
Form Validation Errors
Dynamic Tool Tip Content (hover over a name, and their contact info/picture appears via ajax)
Model Dialogs
jGrowl style messaging
And last but not least it should work for mega dropdown menus.

I will let you know if I can achieve these goals and have them work in Chrome, Firefox, IE6+ on both Mac and Windows 7, but it is looking really promising!

[Craig]

Great to hear jQueryLife! I just upgraded the canvas rendering to work properly in Chrome/WebKit, so take a look and see if it fixes it for you

[adam]

I know that I have no right to tell you how to do software but I think that your release strategy is rather bad.

Version 1.0 is neither finished, nor supported. With new jQuery 1.4 it's *very* buggy almost to the point of not being usable (with 1.3 it's a little bit better). Unfortunately we built our website on qtip 1.0 and it makes us crazy.

Version 2.0 is pre-alpha so it's probably not gonna be better than 1.0. There's of course a risk that you'll abandon it unsupported after 2.0 alpha and will start to develop 3.0.

At least you could write some caution on the frontpage that right now people should not start building websites with qtip 1.0 ...

[MyJqueryLife]

(16th September 14:44)adam Wrote:  I know that I have no right to tell you how to do software but I think that your release strategy is rather bad.

Version 1.0 is neither finished, nor supported. With new jQuery 1.4 it's *very* buggy almost to the point of not being usable (with 1.3 it's a little bit better). Unfortunately we built our website on qtip 1.0 and it makes us crazy.

Version 2.0 is pre-alpha so it's probably not gonna be better than 1.0. There's of course a risk that you'll abandon it unsupported after 2.0 alpha and will start to develop 3.0.

At least you could write some caution on the frontpage that right now people should not start building websites with qtip 1.0 ...

I understand what you are saying, but come on this guy is donating all his time, money to host all of this, and gives it for free. If you want "pro" then go buy a took kit like extjs or something

[Craig]

(16th September 14:44)adam Wrote:  I know that I have no right to tell you how to do software but I think that your release strategy is rather bad.

Version 1.0 is neither finished, nor supported. With new jQuery 1.4 it's *very* buggy almost to the point of not being usable (with 1.3 it's a little bit better). Unfortunately we built our website on qtip 1.0 and it makes us crazy.

Version 2.0 is pre-alpha so it's probably not gonna be better than 1.0. There's of course a risk that you'll abandon it unsupported after 2.0 alpha and will start to develop 3.0.

At least you could write some caution on the frontpage that right now people should not start building websites with qtip 1.0 ...

Adam, you know what... I completely agree! This release strategy at the moment is in a bad state, and has been for a while. The problem I'm having is time! So little to go around these days with college and work... it's getting harder and harder to dedicate enough time to push out 2.0 and hopefully alleviate these problems for good...

I'm hoping to get it done before I head back to University at the start of October. The documentation is near enough finished right about now, and just rounding up a few loose ends in the repository before I can release it. Until then I just need everyone to hold tight, but I do understand the frustration!